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CORPORATE PARTICIPANTS

 PETER MILLIGAN
 AT&T - VP, Investor Relations

 DAVID DORMAN
 AT&T - Chairman & CEO

 THOMAS HORTON
 AT&T - Vice Chairman, EVP, CFO

 JOHN POLUMBO
 AT&T - President & CEO, AT&T Consumer

 WILLIAM HANNIGAN
 AT&T - President, COO



CONFERENCE CALL PARTICIPANTS

 JOHN HODULIK
 UBS - Analyst

 DAVID BARDEN
 Banc of America Securities - Analyst

 MICHAEL MCCORMACK
 Bear Stearns - Analyst

 JONATHAN CHAPPELL
 JP Morgan - Analyst

 JEFFREY HALPERN
 Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. - Analyst

 JASON ARMSTRONG
 Goldman Sachs - Analyst

 SIMON FLANNERY
 Morgan Stanley - Analyst



 PRESENTATION



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OPERATOR

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the 2005 earnings
earnings release call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.
Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. Instructions will be given
at that time. If you should require  assistance  during this call,  please press
star then star then zero. As a reminder,  this conference is being  recorded.  I
would now like to turn the  conference  over to our host,  the Vice President of
Investor Relations, Mr. Peter Milligan. Please go ahead, sir.

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 PETER MILLIGAN  - AT&T - VP, INVESTOR RELATIONS

Thank  you,  Alex.  Good  morning,  this is Peter  Milligan  of AT&T's  investor
relations.  I would like to welcome you to our first quarter 2005 earnings call.
Joining me on the call this morning are: our Chairman and CEO, Dave Dorman,  and
our Vice  Chairman  and CFO,  Tom Horton.  Before I turn things over to Dave,  I
would like to caution all  participants  that our call this  morning may contain
forward-looking  statements  reflecting  management's  beliefs  and  assumptions
regarding future events based on currently available information.  Listeners are
therefore  cautioned not to put undue reliance on forward-looking  statements as
they are not a guarantee of future performance and remain subject to a number of
uncertainties  and other  factors  that  could  cause  actual  results to differ
materially from forecasts. During the call, we will also be referring to various
non-GAAP financial  measures.  The legally required comparable GAAP measures and
reconciliations  are contained in our earnings  release.  With that, let me turn
things over to Dave Dorman.

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

Thanks,  Peter, and good morning, everyone.  Thanks for joining us. AT&T's first
quarter results remain basically on trend with what we have seen in the last few
quarters and largely in line with our expectations.  We are making good progress
in reducing costs and improving our capital  structure.  And based on comparable
2004  results we continue  to outpace  our closest  peers on such key metrics as
revenue generation, cash flow, employee productivity, and capital investment.

At AT&T  business  services,  we  continue  to  expand  our  product  portfolio,
strengthening  our  best-in-class  capabilities in several key areas,  including
security  services,  virtual private  networking,  our so-called VPN suite,  and
hosting and  business  VoIP.  During the quarter we  generated  $5.3  billion of
business  revenue and a solid $1.2  billion of EBITDA for a margin of 22.3%.  We
also continue to drive strong contract win rates, particularly in the government
sector,  and at the high end of the enterprise market. In fact, an intense -- in
an intense pricing environment,  more than a third of our largest customers have
increased their spending with us on a year-over-year basis.

Within our consumer segment, we have -- we are executing a financially optimized
exit from the traditional  residential  services market,  and our results in the
quarter  reflect  that  discipline.  Our ability to quickly  ratchet back sales,
marketing  and related  customer care  expenses  contributed  to a first quarter
operating  income  of  $575  million  and a 34.1  percent  operating  margin  in
consumer.

Despite the challenges we faced, AT&T continues to make significant advances and
we look forward to the opportunities  ahead as a part of the combined AT&T/ SBC.
Our  success  in  transforming  AT&T's  business  model in recent  years and the
underlying  strength of our global IP network,  product suite, and customer base
all played a clear role in SBC's  decision  to join  forces  with us to create a
communications  company for the 21st century.  Together,  we'll continue to make
significant investments in the future of networking and communications, offering
a broad range of applications and services for businesses and consumers alike.

We're already making significant  progress in moving the merger forward. We have
now filed our revised proxy statement with the SEC, and we'll mail final proxies
out to all share owners in advance of the  anticipated  June annual  meeting and
shareholder  vote.  We've  also  received  regulatory  consent  from a number of
required states and foreign  governments,  with many more approvals  expected in
the weeks ahead.

Moving forward,  we'll continue to work closely with the appropriate  regulatory
bodies,  including the SEC and the DOJ, to address their  questions and concerns
so we can  gain  all the  necessary  approvals  as  quickly  as  possible.  With
appropriate  share owner and regulatory  consent,  we're confident that the deal
can close in a timely manner.  In fact,  we're  cautiously  optimistic  that the

merger may be finalized by the end of 2005.  I'm  encouraged  by the progress we
have made, and excited by our prospects for the future.

Over the next few months,  as we prepare for this  business  combination,  we'll
remain  focused on meeting  our  customer  needs and  further  elevating  AT&T's
overall operational and financial strength. This will allow us to become an even
stronger and more  focused  company at the time of the merger than we are today.
With that, let me turn the call over to Tom Horton for a more detailed financial
review. Tom?

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 THOMAS HORTON  - AT&T - VICE CHAIRMAN, EVP, CFO

Thanks and good morning,  everyone. As Dave said, we continue to build on AT&T's
strengths and advance of our merger with SBC. From a financial  perspective,  we
took action late in the first  quarter to further  strengthen  our balance sheet
with a $1.25  billion debt tender offer,  which we completed in early April.  We
also delivered  strong customer win rates in the quarter,  while taking steps to
further enhance our cost structure and productivity.  AT&T is already the sector
leader in terms of  productivity.  We generated 25% more revenue,  and more than
2.5 times the EBITDA per employee than our closest peer in 2004.

We announced  substantial  head count  reductions last year and will continue to
make targeted reductions in 2005 and our technology  investments have allowed us
to drive simultaneous  improvements in overall customer service. Many of our key
customer-facing  operating metrics showed double digit percentage gains in 2004,
and we're on track to do that again in 2005.  We're  accomplishing  this through
technology  which  allows us to  streamline  and simplify  our  operations.  For
example,  during the quarter we retired over 60 additional billing and operating
systems under our ongoing concept of one program.

Turning to our financial results for the quarter,  on a consolidated basis, AT&T
generated first quarter revenue of $7 billion,  down 12.2% versus the prior year
quarter.  First quarter EBITDA was $1.7 billion,  yielding a consolidated margin
of 24.3%, up from last year's margin of 21.8%, excluding restructuring and asset
impairment charges. Operating income was $1.1 billion for an operating margin of
15.3%. And earnings per share was 66 cents.

On an operating segment basis, AT&T business  generated revenue of $5.3 billion,
a 9.4% decline from last year's first quarter, largely driven by ongoing pricing
pressure within LD voice and traditional data products, as well as retail volume
declines.  However, business performance continued to reflect solid growth in IP
and enhanced services,  which improved by 6.6% on a year-over-year basis. Driven
by  enhanced  VPN and  IP-enabled  frame relay  services.  This growth rate also
reflects the impact of a significant customer contract renewal at current market
rates and one of the more mature product areas within IP and the  portfolio.  In
fact, roughly half of our sequential decline in the IP&E revenue is attributable
to this contract renewal. And the balances associated with the mix shift, as the
more mature areas of the IP &E portfolio  face pricing  pressures  while the VPN
services continue to see accelerating growth.

As we have previously noted, the enterprise  market,  which includes  government
and global, represents nearly two-thirds off our business revenue. While the top
line trend here has been driven by pricing pressure, the rate of revenue decline
at the high end of the market is slowing, as we continue to leverage our product
and cost  advantages to win in the  marketplace.  About 20% of overall  business
revenue is generated  from the voice and data  wholesale  market,  where we have
seen  ongoing  pricing  pressure.  We expect  pricing to continue to  negatively
impact both voice and data revenue, despite anticipated volume strength.

Lastly,  the  small  and  medium  business  market  represents  about 15% of our
business segment revenue. As we have said last quarter, we're becoming much more
selective in our approach to the small business market, which represents roughly
half of small and medium  business  revenue.  We are  managing  this area of the
business  for cash flow and  profitability,  similar to our  consumer  strategy.
Accordingly, we expect the rate of revenue decline in this area to accelerate.

AT&T business  operating  income for the quarter was $588  million,  yielding an
operating  margin of 11%.  EBITDA was $1.2  billion for a margin of 22.3%.  This
compares to last year's first  quarter  EBITDA  margin of 23.3%,  adjusting  for
prior year restructuring charges.

Turning now to AT&T  consumer,  which  generated  first quarter  revenue of $1.7
billion,  down 20% from the prior year  quarter,  largely  driven by ongoing and
anticipated  subscriber  declines in this area of the  business.  First  quarter
operating  income  was $575  million,  yielding  an  operating  margin of 34.1%.
Consumer operating income continued to benefit from dramatic reductions in sales
and marketing  expense and lower access costs as we're  optimizing  the business
for profitability and cash flow.

In addition,  lower bad debt,  customer care, and other  operational  costs were
significant  contributors  to the  margin  strength.  However,  the  unfavorable
prepaid card ruling that we received during the quarter will  negatively  impact
our consumer  operations.  We're currently evaluating the timing and the size of
any potential  rate increases that we'll pass on to the consumers as a result of
the FCC decision.  To the extent that we're unable to recover the cost increase,
due either to contractual  obligations or market dynamics,  we would expect this
ruling to have a negative impact on consumer  profitability for the remainder of
the year.

Turning to cash flow, on a  consolidated  basis,  AT&T generated $479 million of
free cash  flow in the  quarter.  Aided in part by our  ongoing  cost  structure
improvements and productivity  enhancements.  First quarter capital expenditures
were $335 million,  primarily directed towards ongoing network enhancement,  and
system integration to support AT&T's focus on delivering industry leading global
networking services.

Moving to the balance sheet, we ended the quarter with net debt of $5.6 billion,
roughly a $400 million  decrease since the start of the year, and a $2.8 million
reduction  year-over-year.  And, as I noted earlier,  with the completion of our
$1.25 billion debt tender offer earlier in the second  quarter,  we continue our
deleveraging  progress. As a result of this offer, we'll record a pretax loss of
roughly  $200 million in the other  income  expense line in the second  quarter.
While the terms of the SBC merger agreement prevent us from  repurchasing  stock
or increasing our dividend payment,  we will continue to evaluate any attractive
opportunities for additional debt repurchases moving forward.  With that, I will
turn things back to Peter Milligan for the Q&A portion of the call.

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 PETER MILLIGAN  - AT&T - VP, INVESTOR RELATIONS

Thank you, Tom. In just a minute,  I will ask Alex to review the  procedures for
asking a  question.  Joining  both  Dave and Tom this  morning  for Q&A are AT&T
President and COO,  Bill  Hannigan,  and AT&T  Consumer  President and CEO, John
Polumbo. Alex, would you please provide instructions for logging a question?

 QUESTION AND ANSWER

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OPERATOR

Yes, sir, thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question, please
press  star  and  then  one on  your  touch-tone  phone.  You  will  hear a tone
indicating have you been placed in queue.  You may remove yourself from queue at
any time by  pressing  the pound key. If you are using a speaker  phone,  please
pick up your hand set before  pressing  the numbers.  Once again,  if you have a
question, please press star one at this time. One moment for the first question.
And our first question comes from the line of John Hodulik from UBS.

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 JOHN HODULIK  - UBS - ANALYST

Thanks, good morning, guys. Two quick questions. First, in the business segment,
the long distance voice trends,  obviously you guys, I guess,  are seeing volume
declines for two quarters in a row, I believe,  now. Is that due to what you are
seeing in the -- sort of the lower industry volumes or is it a function of lower
market share as a result of your  de-emphasis of the SME market,  and how do you
expect  that to trend  throughout  the rest of the year?  And  secondly,  just a
housekeeping  item.  The tax rate  moved up a bit.  I think it was like 41% this
quarter. Is there anything going on there? I mean, we expected something sort of
in the high 30s. Thanks.

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

John, can you repeat the part of your -- the last part of your question?

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 JOHN HODULIK  - UBS - ANALYST

The tax rate. The tax rate, I think the effective tax rate was about 41%. It was
a little bit higher than we expected.

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 David Dorman  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

Hannigan will take the first part and Tom will take the second part.

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 WILLIAM HANNIGAN  - AT&T - PRESIDENT, COO

On the business volume side,  we're seeing some industry  volume  dampening down
market -- the mass  market  aspect of small biz and the low end of  medium,  and
certainly  wireless  substitution is part of that. The volumes are quite healthy
up market.

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

Okay. Obviously the UNEP exit strategy in small business where we're not selling
a bundle, only selling long distance,  affects the overall performance there. We
were,  as you know,  pretty  active in the small  business  market with the UNEP
offer. So I think that's a big part of it.

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 JOHN HODULIK  - UBS - ANALYST

Is this 17% rate a good rate going forward for the year?

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 WILLIAM HANNIGAN  - AT&T - PRESIDENT, COO

We continue to see -- like I said the  volumes at the high end are  healthy.  We
continue to see pricing pressure.

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

Yeah,  I think  you -- the mix  shift  issue  is a big one.  It's a little  more
complex than just those two drivers  because you have  wholesale  volumes  still
growing.  High end volumes,  actually growing as we either take share or there's
some economic recovery.  And then the decline in a volume sense from these small
customers  is not that huge.  I mean,  there's -- there are fewer  minutes  down
market but they are higher priced minutes. So something that, you know, we could

probably spend a lot of time on, and at least in this context, is not just those
two drivers.

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 JOHN HODULIK  - UBS - ANALYST

Okay. And the tax rate?

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 THOMAS HORTON  - AT&T - VICE CHAIRMAN, EVP, CFO

Yeah, John, this is Tom. The tax rate, as you point out did tick up a bit in the
first quarter,  and in connection  with our merger with SBC, we'll incur certain
deal costs, proxy, legal, investment, banking, that sort of thing. And in total,
we expect those costs to be around a percent of the deal value, with the largest
impact  coming  in  the  second  quarter,   due  to  the  proxy  and  regulatory
approval-related costs. All of that gets expensed for accounting purposes.

So the deal costs actually had a pretty  minimal  impact on operating  income in
the first  quarter.  It did affect the first  quarter  effective  tax rate,  and
that's because much of the deal costs are expensed for book accounting purposes,
but  required to be  capitalized  for tax  purposes,  and that has the effect of
pushing up the annual  effective tax rate,  and as you know,  the way this works
for accounting purposes, the increase in the first quarter rate is a function of
the  requirement of the tax accounting  rules to calculate the full year impact,
based on expected  full year deal  costs.  And then book a quarter of the impact
each quarter.

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 JOHN HODULIK  - UBS - ANALYST

Okay. Thanks.

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 PETER MILLIGAN  - AT&T - VP, INVESTOR RELATIONS

Thanks, John. Alex, we have the next question, please?

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OPERATOR

Yes. The next question  comes from the line of David Barden from Banc of America
securities. Please go ahead.

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 DAVID BARDEN  - BANC OF AMERICA SECURITIES - ANALYST

Thanks,  guys.  Good morning.  First, I have two  questions.  The first question
related to the comments you made about the impact of a -- of a contract  renewal
at  current  price  points.  I was  wondering  if you could -- since you kind of
singled that event out, I was  wondering if you could give us a sense as to what
was the actual rate of repricing percentage decline in that contract?  Was it --
was it down 10% after a  three-year  refresh?  Was it down 25% after a five-year
refresh?  Some color on that would be very  helpful as we have talked about this
contract roll through issue before.

And the second  question I would have would be on the UNEP wireline  front.  You
guys have been raising the minimum fees in LD pretty  steadily  each quarter for
the last year or so, as you guys have been kind of  harvesting  the  consumer LD
side of this equation.  I was wondering if we could look forward to some type of
similar  strategy on local now presumably  that you are being acquired by a Bell
company.  There's  not as much  benefit  in  keeping  prices low for the sake of
keeping prices low. Is there some  expectation that maybe we'll start to harvest
the local business as well, which I guess is still about 3.8 million  customers?
Thanks a lot.

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 WILLIAM HANNIGAN  - AT&T - PRESIDENT, COO

David,  this is Bill Hannigan.  I will take the first part of your question.  As
far as the  contract  renewal for our largest IP  customer,  the price point was
lower.

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 DAVID BARDEN  - BANC OF AMERICA SECURITIES - ANALYST

[LAUGHTER] Thanks, Bill.

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 WILLIAM HANNIGAN  - AT&T - PRESIDENT, COO

You're welcome.

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 DAVID BARDEN  - BANC OF AMERICA SECURITIES - ANALYST

Any numbers you can put around that one?

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 WILLIAM HANNIGAN  - AT&T - PRESIDENT, COO

No.

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 DAVID BARDEN  - BANC OF AMERICA SECURITIES - ANALYST

Okay.

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

I think we said it what a percentage, right of the --

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 WILLIAM HANNIGAN  - AT&T - PRESIDENT, COO

We talked about a percentage of the IP.

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

Of the decline.

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 WILLIAM HANNIGAN  - AT&T - PRESIDENT, COO

Not the price points.

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

On the second part,  obviously as we look at the portfolio,  we said long before
the SBC  acquisition  was announced,  that the strategy around the UNEP base was
going to be dictated by the pricing rules as they came out, what the  transition
plan would be, based on the final FCC orders and how they were  implemented.  So
we have taken  state-by-state  kinds of actions, and we have negotiated with the
Bell companies  individually  for different kinds of agreements.  In the case of
Qwest, for example, I think we have actually signed a commercial  agreement with
them.  I  think  we  have  other   agreements   being  negotiated  both  on  the
state-by-state and region-wide basis.

So  depending  on what those price  points are,  and where we started  with that
particular  Bell  company and that  particular  state and what our base is, that
will actually dictate the strategy. You know, we have said in the past, that New
York state,  for example,  has been a  significant  Uni  consumer  state for us.
Representing at one point,  probably 25% of the Unibase, and that's a base that,
you know, I think can continue on, under some form of commercial agreement.  But
we are,  obviously,  not selling new ones except on a customer  selected inbound
basis when they call us up. So I think there's an  opportunity  for that -- that
tail to be long, based on there being a commercial agreement in place to sustain
that particular product.  And also, the customer's own choice about whether they
want to change providers again,  they are happy and stable. So I'm not trying to
be evasive. It truly is a multi-state, multi-region answer. With respect to SBC,
we are just going  continue  to do what we have been  doing with  respect to our
share owners and post-merger, they will decide how they want to play that.

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 PETER MILLIGAN  - AT&T - VP, INVESTOR RELATIONS

Thank you, David. Alex, can we have the next question, please?

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OPERATOR

Absolutely. The next question comes from the line of Michael McCormack from Bear
Stearns. Please go ahead.

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 MICHAEL MCCORMACK  - BEAR STEARNS - ANALYST

Thanks. Good morning, guys. Just a quick update on head count reductions. I know
you  have  planned  about  5100 for '05,  if you can  give us an  update  on the
schedule  there and  whether or not the  transaction  with SBC has any impact on
that? And then if you can just contrast the decline in business local voice,  it
looked a lot more severe than what's happening in consumer. And yet I think they
are both sort of falling under that UNEP blame. So, just trying to get some more
clarity on that.

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

The head count question -- Tom, do you want to take that?

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 THOMAS HORTON  - AT&T - VICE CHAIRMAN, EVP, CFO

Yeah,  on head  count we  ended  with  44,000  employees.  That  was  about a 7%
reduction year-over-year,  and we expect to take further targeted reductions for
the remainder of this year.

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

It's largely driven by our own internal plans based on productivity,  gains that
we had from technology investments.  So those were built -- systems that we were
building last year and  implementing  this year, as well as some things later in
the year that come from other releases  really not related to SBC transaction at
all, at this point, because obviously,  we are not in a position,  nor are they,
to do anything that would get us ahead of the approval process.

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 THOMAS HORTON  - AT&T - VICE CHAIRMAN, EVP, CFO

As far as local  business  is  concerned,  the  quarter-over-quarter  compare is
skewed by the  reciprocal  comp that we talked about last quarter,  without that
down a few percentage points. But it does go to small biz and the low end of the
medium and the  aggressiveness  of the RBOCs in that space.  

As Dave  said,  as we  move up  market  our  position  becomes  that  much  more
formidable  and  defensible  as we have been  saying for the last year.  Our win
rates  continue  to be very  strong.  Dave gave a sample  of the top 100  retail
customers, which is a portfolio of several billion dollars, and we actually grew
more than a third of those  customers  on an absolute  basis over the past year.
You  can't do that in this  pricing  environment,  in an  environment  of annual
benchmarking  without  extending  deeper  into  the  enterprise  of our  largest
customers which is exactly what we are doing with new offerings.

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

Just  to be  clear,  we had a  reciprocal  comp  settlement  last  year,  so the
year-over-year compare is skewed by that. That's the big hit single in that.

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 PETER MILLIGAN  - AT&T - VP, INVESTOR RELATIONS

Thank you, Mike. Alex, can we have the next question, please?

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OPERATOR

Yes. Our next question comes from the line of Jonathan  Chappell from JP Morgan.
Please go ahead.

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 JONATHAN CHAPPELL  - JP MORGAN - ANALYST

Hi, I had two quick  questions.  On the consumer side, you guys improved margins
very significantly  this quarter. I was wondering,  if you exclude the impact of
the decision  that went against you, how high margins  could  potentially  go in
that  business?  And then it looks  like  the  rate of line  loss has  improved,
despite all the cuts you are making in sales and marketing and customer care. Do
you  think  that the -- you know,  as the cuts  that you are  making on the head
count side, you know, translate through the business,  do you think you will see
an  acceleration in line loss, or do you think it will continue to plateau going
forward?

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

I will let John Polumbo give you a more detailed answer. But, I think one of the
things  that  you  can   characterize   about  this  business,   we  don't  have
marketing-induced  activity,  where you are bringing on new customers,  you have
some infant mortality rate because customers maybe didn't qualify for credit and
you ended up turning  them off quickly,  they didn't pay their bill.  You had --
you know the things that go on in the  selling  environment.  Basically,  all of
that  activity  has now been  taken out of the  system.  We just  don't have the
activity base cost that we had before, which has allowed us to not only stop the
direct selling expenses, but the activity derived expenses as well. Secondly, we
still have inbound sales.  You know, I can't  remember,  John, the exact number,
but we still have, you know -- what is it, a couple hundred thousand?

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 JOHN POLUMBO  - AT&T - PRESIDENT & CEO, AT&T CONSUMER

A couple hundred thousand a month.

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

A couple  hundred  thousand  a month of people  calling  in that still want AT&T
service  that we didn't  do  anything  proactively  to go get.  Either  they are
moving, you know,  whatever the forum might be. So there is, we think, at least,
a customer  base,  which is reaching a stasis,  where they have been with us for

quite a while.  The average length of time these  customers have been with us is
expanding because we are not adding new short duration customers. So the tail on
this is hard to  predict  but we  certainly  like the trends we are seeing and I
expect  that those  trends can  continue.  You know  let's be  realistic,  still
declining by 20% in revenue terms,  but it's not accelerating at this point, and
we watch it literally week by week.

Now, some of this is self-induced.  We raised prices,  and we tried to do things
that make sense. So we are not trying, in any case, to be a price leader in this
space.  But at this point,  we are -- we are managing this week by week,  really
customer  set by customer  set,  product set by product  set. And we -- we react
when we see things change. If either the rate goes up by something we've done or
we have an opportunity to be, you know, in our view,  more prudent about leaving
the prices alone, we'll do that.

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 JOHN POLUMBO  - AT&T - PRESIDENT & CEO, AT&T CONSUMER

On the operating margin question,  I would think that the first quarter is going
to be the highest that you will see for the rest of the year and going  forward.
So I called this the pinnacle of the operating  margin for consumer in the first
quarter of '05. The other factors,  I think involved here is the loyalty and the
tenure base, as Dave said is, increasing month over month and the brand question
and another  issue there.  The customers are selecting us based on the brand and
we're open for business.  We continue to deliver great  services to our existing
base of  customers.  We have lost 2 million  customers in the first  quarter and
that  continues to decline the base,  but there are  customers  coming in too. I
think those  factors all  together  allow us to say there's a base here into the
future,  but we're not doing  anything  that drives  customers  away.  We accept
orders every day, thousands, 200,000 approximately per month.

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 PETER MILLIGAN  - AT&T - VP, INVESTOR RELATIONS

Thank you, Jonathan. Alex, can we have the next question?

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OPERATOR

 Yes. The next question comes from Jeffrey Halpern from Sanford Bernstein.

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 JEFFREY HALPERN  - SANFORD C. BERNSTEIN & CO. - ANALYST

Good morning,  guys. A quick question on the networks contract, the networks RFP
that the GSA is  expected  to issue  next  month,  that  just got  delayed.  I'm
curious,  first of all, if you could share with us, roughly speaking,  what kind
of revenues you are getting today from the GSA under FTS 2001,  and then at what
point, and are there -- are there any issues with your bidding side by side with
Cingular for -- as part of the network's RFP that will be issued? And your rough
size estimate?

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

We are working with SBC and  Cingular in a  commercial  sense as we put together
our various  teaming  arrangements.  The FTS revenues for AT&T are fairly small.
Our government revenues,  however are not. Our government revenues,  all in, are
about $1.2 billion on an annual basis. Contracts won outside of FTS.

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 PETER MILLIGAN  - AT&T - VP, INVESTOR RELATIONS

Thank you. Alex, can we have the next question, please?

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OPERATOR

Absolutely.  The next  question  comes  from the  line of Jason  Armstrong  from
Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

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 JASON ARMSTRONG  - GOLDMAN SACHS - ANALYST

Thanks,  good  morning.  I just wanted to follow up on a comment from Dave.  You
mentioned a third of high-end  enterprise  customers  increased  spending in the
last year.  And I just  wanted to hear you sort of  characterize  this.  Are you
taking  share  here,  or are  these  customers  just  spending  more and  really
spreading it around?  And if that's the case, what are they spending on? Why are
they  raising  budgets?  And  then on the  flip  side  of  that,  for the  other
two-thirds high-end customers,  can you segment for this as well what percentage
decreased   their   spending  with  you  and  what   percentage   kept  it  flat
year-over-year.

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

I will let you repeat the second part; I think I got the first part.

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 JASON ARMSTRONG  - GOLDMAN SACHS - ANALYST

The second part was, on the flip side there's two-thirds -- the other two-thirds
of high-end customers -- can you segment that as well? What percentage decreased
their spending with you, versus what percent kept it flat?

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 DAVID DORMAN  - AT&T - CHAIRMAN & CEO

Yes, I think at the macro  level,  what we're  seeing is really all of the above
that you suggested. We're seeing some growth in the customers' business based on
their business  expanding.  You know, we have some significant  retail customers
who have been growing, and we're growing with them. We also have customers where
we're taking  share.  We're  getting a deeper  penetration  share of wallet from
those customers.  Then, thirdly,  we're getting new services.  As we expand into
other things we're doing around the network, and around the world, we're picking
up global business.  We're picking up hosting  business.  So things that are new
products  for us that we -- you know,  either  didn't  participate  in with that
customer before.

As far as characterizing the rest of it, the backdrop of this is really about
price decline, and the high end of the market. We believe we're holding share,
and our win rates, in terms of retention of existing base, are very high. Our
increase in business on that base of revenue, the win rate there is quite high.
And we think we're winning a very good share of new business in customers where
we weren't the incumbent. So when you -- when you add up what we're doing there,
against, as Bill Hannigan said, an annual price refresh, a three-year contract
with an annual price refresh which is really become typical, we're -- while we
may not be growing revenue with that other 65% or so, we're not necessarily
losing to competitors. We're losing to price downs. And I think that's the --
particularly in the high end of the market, in enterprise, and signature client.
I would also say that we probably didn't make a strong enough point that both
global revenues and government revenues are growing at double digit rates. Those
are very strong growers for us, and we expect that trend to continue.

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 PETER MILLIGAN  - AT&T - VP, INVESTOR RELATIONS

Thanks, Jason. Alex, we have time for one more question.


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OPERATOR

Thank you. And the final question from Simon Flannery of Morgan Stanley.  Please
go ahead.

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 SIMON FLANNERY  - MORGAN STANLEY - ANALYST

Thank you. Good  morning.  Could you talk a little bit about where we are on the
wireless?  Have  you been  able to reach  agreement  with  Cingular  in terms of
starting to perhaps starting to sell services before the end of the merger?  And
also,  could you just touch on the one-time  transition -- or termination on the
prepaid network capacity?  It looked like about $30 million.  Is that the impact
we should be thinking about? Thanks.

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 THOMAS HORTON  - AT&T - VICE CHAIRMAN, EVP, CFO

Yeah,  the -- Simon,  this is Tom. You are right on. On the  terminations,  it's
about $30 million.

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 SIMON FLANNERY  - MORGAN STANLEY - ANALYST

Is -- and is there any ongoing revenue loss there of any materiality?

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 THOMAS HORTON  - AT&T - VICE CHAIRMAN, EVP, CFO

No.

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 SIMON FLANNERY  - MORGAN STANLEY - ANALYST

Okay.

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 WILLIAM HANNIGAN  - AT&T - PRESIDENT, COO

This is Bill  Hannigan.  On the  Cingular  side,  our hope and intent is to have
offerings prior to the close, work-in-progress.

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 SIMON FLANNERY  - MORGAN STANLEY - ANALYST

Okay. Thank you.

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 PETER MILLIGAN  - AT&T - VP, INVESTOR RELATIONS

Thank you,  Simon.  That  concludes the Q&A portion of our call. I want to thank
you all for your  participation.  Beginning later today, you can access a replay
of of the call on the AT&T  investor  relations  web  site,  or by  dialing  the
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additional questions or require further information, feel free to contact AT&T's
investor relations team at 908-532-1680. Thanks, and have a great day.

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OPERATOR

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference for today. Thank you for
your  participation  and for using AT&T  executive  teleconference.  You may now
disconnect.

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